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Why Your Shoulder Still Hurts After Rotator Cuff Exercises for the Snatch.

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Dr. Aaron Horschig breaks down how he treated a weightlifter's recurring shoulder subluxations from the snatch after three physical therapists told her to just stop lifting. He found her posterior rotator cuff was weak and rebuilt stability using position-specific paused presses and an Earthquake Bamboo Bar.

Key takeaways

  • Dr. Aaron Horschig's patient Sammy suffered three separate shoulder subluxations from snatching before three physical therapists all told her to stop weightlifting.
  • According to Dr. Aaron Horschig, weightlifting as a sport actually carries a low risk of injury compared to other sports, so 'just stop lifting' isn't always the right call.
  • Sammy's evaluation revealed a weak posterior rotator cuff, which let the front of her shoulder take over and allowed excess motion when her arm was overhead.
  • Standard external rotation exercises didn't resolve Sammy's pain because they never trained her shoulder in the overhead position specific to the snatch.
  • Dr. Aaron Horschig rebuilt shoulder stability using paused external rotation work, paused presses, and snatch grip overhead presses with an Earthquake Bamboo Bar.
  • The Earthquake Bamboo Bar's shaking, bouncing weight forces the rotator cuff to stabilize the shoulder dynamically, bridging the gap back to loaded snatching.

Why did Sammy's shoulder keep subluxing during the snatch?

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Sammy's shoulder kept subluxing because her posterior rotator cuff was quite weak, according to Dr. Aaron Horschig's evaluation. A subluxation is when the ball of the shoulder joint pops out of the socket and then comes back in — Sammy experienced this three separate times while snatching.

Functionally, when her arm went overhead to receive the snatch, her shoulder joint wasn't stable. Because the back of the rotator cuff wasn't pulling its weight, the front of the shoulder took over, allowing more motion at the joint than should occur in that overhead position.

Should you stop weightlifting after a shoulder injury?

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Not automatically, says Dr. Aaron Horschig — three physical therapists told Sammy to stop weightlifting entirely, but he disagreed with that as the default answer. He notes that weightlifting as a sport is actually quite safe with a low risk of injury compared to other sports, a fact he says most medical professionals fail to realize.

Instead of shutting down her training, Sammy traveled to St. Louis for an evaluation with Dr. Horschig, who looked for the underlying mechanical cause of her recurring subluxations rather than just removing the stressor.

Why didn't basic shoulder exercises fix the pain?

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Basic external rotation exercises didn't fix Sammy's pain because they don't train the shoulder in the same overhead position where the pain actually occurred. Sammy still hurt even just raising her arms, despite doing the simple exercises three separate PTs had prescribed.

The fix had to match the position the shoulder actually works in during a snatch — arm locked out overhead — not just a generic, arms-at-the-side rotation drill.

How do you rebuild shoulder stability for the snatch?

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Rebuilding shoulder stability for the snatch means training the rotator cuff in the overhead, load-bearing position it actually has to stabilize. Dr. Aaron Horschig used a two-step progression with Sammy:

  1. External rotation work with pauses, plus a press with a pause, to rebuild shoulder stability in a position specific to the snatch.
  2. Snatch grip overhead presses with the Earthquake Bamboo Bar — the bar's shaking, bouncing weight forces the rotator cuff to work dynamically to stabilize the shoulder joint.

This progression was designed to eventually get Sammy back to loaded snatching, rather than permanently pulling her out of the sport.

Notable quotes

My patient Sammy also hurt herself snatching, suffering 3 separate shoulder subluxations where the ball pops out and then comes back in.

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What most medical professionals fail to realize is that weightlifting as a sport is actually quite safe with a low risk of injury compared to other sports.

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The front side takes over because the back isn't pulling its weight and there's more motion occurring than should.

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The shaking, bouncing weight forces the rotator cuff to work dynamically to stabilize the shoulder joint so we can eventually get back to some load.

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Frequently asked questions

Why does a rotator cuff injury still hurt after doing shoulder external rotation exercises?

According to Dr. Aaron Horschig, basic external rotation exercises strengthen the rotator cuff but don't train the shoulder in the overhead position where lifters like Sammy actually feel pain. The snatch demands stability with the arm overhead, so rehab has to be done in that specific position, not just in a neutral, arms-down posture.

Should you stop weightlifting if you have a shoulder subluxation?

Not necessarily, says Dr. Aaron Horschig, who treated a patient named Sammy after three physical therapists told her to stop weightlifting entirely. He points out that weightlifting as a sport actually carries a low risk of injury compared to other sports, so quitting isn't automatically the right answer, even after repeated shoulder subluxations.

What causes shoulder instability during the snatch in weightlifting?

A weak posterior rotator cuff is the culprit, per Dr. Aaron Horschig's evaluation of his patient Sammy. When the back of the rotator cuff isn't pulling its weight, the front of the shoulder takes over during the overhead receiving position of the snatch, allowing more joint motion than should occur and destabilizing the shoulder.

What is a shoulder subluxation and how did Sammy get one from snatching?

A shoulder subluxation is when the ball of the shoulder joint pops out of the socket and then comes back in on its own. Dr. Aaron Horschig's patient Sammy suffered three separate subluxations while performing the snatch, an Olympic weightlifting movement that requires the arm to stabilize overhead under load.

How does the Earthquake Bamboo Bar help rehab a rotator cuff injury?

The Earthquake Bamboo Bar's shaking, bouncing weight forces the rotator cuff to work dynamically to stabilize the shoulder joint, according to Dr. Aaron Horschig. He used snatch grip overhead presses with this bar as a progression after paused external rotation work, to prepare Sammy's shoulder to eventually handle full snatch loads again.

What exercises help rebuild shoulder stability for the snatch?

Dr. Aaron Horschig used external rotation work with pauses and a press with a pause, done in the overhead position specific to the snatch, to rebuild shoulder stability for his patient Sammy. He followed this with snatch grip overhead presses using an Earthquake Bamboo Bar to dynamically challenge the rotator cuff before returning to loaded lifting.

Full transcript

0:00Sammy's shoulder subluxations from snatching

My patient Sammy also hurt herself snatching, suffering 3 separate shoulder subluxations where the ball pops out and then comes back in. Now, she saw 3 separate physical therapists who all told her stop weightlifting and gave her very simple shoulder external rotation exercises. But the problem was her shoulder still hurt even raising her arms. Now, what most medical professionals fail to realize is that weightlifting as a sport is actually quite safe with a low risk of injury compared to other sports.

So I didn't think the answer was just stop lifting. So Sammy traveled all the way to St. Louis to see me for an evaluation. And one of the main findings I found was that her posterior rotator cuff was quite weak.

Functionally, this means that when her arm is overhead to receive the snatch, her shoulder joint is not stable. The front side takes over because the back isn't pulling its weight and there's more motion occurring than should. Now exercises like this do address those muscles, but they don't address the same position of the arm overhead, which is why

she still had pain. So instead we did our external rotation work with pauses and a press with a pause to rebuild shoulder stability in a position specific to how her shoulder works with the snatch.

We then did some snatch grip overhead presses with the Earthquake Bamboo Bar. The shaking, bouncing weight forces the rotator cuff to work dynamically to stabilize the shoulder joint so we can eventually get back to some load.

0:30Why 'stop weightlifting' isn't the right answer

0:45Finding the weak posterior rotator cuff

1:03Fixing it: paused external rotation and presses

1:13Earthquake bamboo bar snatch grip overhead press

Mentioned in this video

People
  • Dr. Aaron Horschig
  • Sammy
Organizations
  • Squat University
  • Bandbell
Places
  • St. Louis
Products
  • Earthquake Bamboo Bar
Concepts
  • Snatch (weightlifting)
  • Rotator cuff
  • Shoulder subluxation
  • Olympic weightlifting